yet another new car for se german...
Alright, I'm desperately searching for a job atm. Since Katja needs our 207 to drive to work each day I'm thinking of getting something myself around april/may.
I want something cheap that doesn't take too much fuel and is cheap in tax (which is something like co2- and displacement connected in the very near future).
I can go up to about 10000€ but would love to stay way beyond (maybe around 5000 max).
I've already thought about the citroen c1, peugeot 107 or the aygo, but at 11000 these cars don't offer too much. So maybe a used 206 or something might be good, assuming it isn't too old and got a decent catalytic converter.
Historic cars built before march 1979) would be fine if I don't have to repair them first to get them going.
What would you get for this money?
greetz
der butz
I want something cheap that doesn't take too much fuel and is cheap in tax (which is something like co2- and displacement connected in the very near future).
I can go up to about 10000€ but would love to stay way beyond (maybe around 5000 max).
I've already thought about the citroen c1, peugeot 107 or the aygo, but at 11000 these cars don't offer too much. So maybe a used 206 or something might be good, assuming it isn't too old and got a decent catalytic converter.
Historic cars built before march 1979) would be fine if I don't have to repair them first to get them going.
What would you get for this money?
greetz
der butz
P = U*I
Power is current * amps
edit: too late :-)
Power is current * amps
edit: too late :-)
Just in case someone wants to have it built as well, vinny does NOT build this himself. So there has to be someone making it (and charging a sh*tload of money for it).
Don't ask if vinny sells you one, ask where HE sends the money to.
greetz
der butz
I'd rather get a wii, the concept is funny, games are a laugh (especially that rabbids thing, laughed so hard when I saw it for the first time!)
Also the wii is for everyone, psp is just a blown up gameboy for keeping teenagers away from any work, be it in the house or at school.
greetz
der butz
Also the wii is for everyone, psp is just a blown up gameboy for keeping teenagers away from any work, be it in the house or at school.
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der butz
What I don't get is this:
When you're so perfectly capable, then why did you get off the throttle in a corner? On the Oval??
Sometimes it gets a little harsh on FM's Oval Junkies. Sometimes I just visit and watch them go left and left, I barely drive there. What I've found out was that over an hour or two Several FM-guys practice hard to get faster and race closer. During that time many many people join, ruin 5 or 6 races with their poor skills, then leave again. You might just have been the drop that made the scale tip over...
This is plain wrong.
I know the FM guys as really really helpful blokes. You get their fast sets, you can talk to one of them 24/7, you get every kind of help you need - if you want to.
greetz
der butz
When you're so perfectly capable, then why did you get off the throttle in a corner? On the Oval??
Sometimes it gets a little harsh on FM's Oval Junkies. Sometimes I just visit and watch them go left and left, I barely drive there. What I've found out was that over an hour or two Several FM-guys practice hard to get faster and race closer. During that time many many people join, ruin 5 or 6 races with their poor skills, then leave again. You might just have been the drop that made the scale tip over...
This is plain wrong.
I know the FM guys as really really helpful blokes. You get their fast sets, you can talk to one of them 24/7, you get every kind of help you need - if you want to.
greetz
der butz
looking at all the "g25 is TEH wheel" posts I'd say take that one. On the other hand: Go look in this forum sub section. It's packed with threads about G25's problems. It even seems near impossible to get this thing going in the first place.
Wenn schon Scheiße, dann mit Schwung!
I'd take the 911, period.
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der butz
Wenn schon Scheiße, dann mit Schwung!
I'd take the 911, period.
greetz
der butz
No offence, but 99,9% of the population in india earn less than 5 Dollars a month... how on earth will this help tho raise the economy there? Sure, there will be more employees needed, but the people paving the place will also earn next to nothing, whilst one ticket to the F1gp of India will still cost hundreds.
My opinion: Build schools there, no f***ing Racetrack, you god forgotten idiots!
greetz
der butz
My opinion: Build schools there, no f***ing Racetrack, you god forgotten idiots!
greetz
der butz
I've played em all... first were c64 racers of which I've even forgot the names. Then came revs, the first graphical f1-simulator for the home pc. then test drive (which was not a simulator, but fun!), some top down racing games, geoff crammonds F1 on amiga, indy 500 (the blocky one, playable with the mouse), stunt car racer, supercars2 and 4d sports driving. Then the ibm pc came, and with it microprose again, then papyrus' indy- and nascar racing series. destruction derby and nfs high stakes was fun (i won everything and could see nice cars), big red racing was a blast and made my brother buy his first 3d-card (a voodoo one), I didn't even own a proper computer by then! Later on I bought more funny car games like crashday, carmageddon (okay, this was earlier...) grand prix legends, rally masters, sports car GT, cross racing championship. My first online racing experience was 1nsane, which is serious fun, and I could play with some funny Canadians! On the other side of the world!!!! Cmr2005 was not as cool as RBR, but nice in a different way. Rally Trophy and CMR-Dirt have got some cool cars as well. Gtr and GTL offer a nice variety of tracks and cars, the copy protection is stupid though. Usually I buy a game, install it and put the CD somewhere I don't have to see it:-)
As you see I've played a lot of racing games over the last 20 years. All of them were great fun at the time they were at least half way modern. All of the games offer different cars, tracks, classes of racing, physics and moddability. I like them all.
Nowadays it's LFS time :-) it feels nice, cars and tracks are very well made, but I play this one for the physics and the brutally great netcode!
I don't think people mention nfs so often because it's crap. I think - like some others here - it can surely be fun! Too many young guns here yell for bodykits and wings and so on though, they actually want to have nfs with lfs physics (most of them are demoers, so they want bodynitrous realism AND they want it for free!)
greetz
der butz
As you see I've played a lot of racing games over the last 20 years. All of them were great fun at the time they were at least half way modern. All of the games offer different cars, tracks, classes of racing, physics and moddability. I like them all.
Nowadays it's LFS time :-) it feels nice, cars and tracks are very well made, but I play this one for the physics and the brutally great netcode!
I don't think people mention nfs so often because it's crap. I think - like some others here - it can surely be fun! Too many young guns here yell for bodykits and wings and so on though, they actually want to have nfs with lfs physics (most of them are demoers, so they want bodynitrous realism AND they want it for free!)
greetz
der butz
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Schnitzel, you don't have to chew the bloody bone all the time 
Xjr9 or 962?
Xjr9 or 962?
yep, badly photoshopped as well. It's funny though :-)
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der butz
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der butz
OY! I live there!
greetz
der not-wearing-lederhosen-butz
and "kraft durch Freude" (strength through enjoyment) was not a car... it was the nazi's very own travel agency. They wanted the "porper german" to have fun, so they organized everything from swimming courses, party evenings... up to proper cruises on big ships. The nazis intended that someone who is happy works better (for them). However the beetle was first called "kdf-Wagen", it should be very cheap and mobilise people, so they would be happier and work more. In fact the beetle should be germany's Tin Lizzy. Cheap, simple, reliable.
Designwise there's some rumour. Some eastern european guy could be the inventor of the overall beetly shape, a designer at mercedes claimed responsible for it... basically if we lived back in the days and would have been asked to sketch a simple car, everyone would draw the beetle without having seen it before: fwd - expensive. transaxle - expensive. get the engine to the back as much as possible to create more space, boot in the front, 4 seats and a cheap hull. here you go, the 356...erm...beetle
another fact: about 99% of the random facts on the interweb are hoax!
greetz
der butz
Designwise there's some rumour. Some eastern european guy could be the inventor of the overall beetly shape, a designer at mercedes claimed responsible for it... basically if we lived back in the days and would have been asked to sketch a simple car, everyone would draw the beetle without having seen it before: fwd - expensive. transaxle - expensive. get the engine to the back as much as possible to create more space, boot in the front, 4 seats and a cheap hull. here you go, the 356...erm...beetle
another fact: about 99% of the random facts on the interweb are hoax!
greetz
der butz
Morning ladies,
Well, politician or not, it can't get much worse. Obama seems to at least search conversation with other countries, rather than ruling them all by sheer monetary and arms power. America shrunk down from a nuclear superpower to a country that has to admit its problems, as many others did long before.
Bush spent billions for his own personal goals. He "failed epically" (hate this term btw, but here it rather fits) and made every country know america as the land that doesn't care about anything but itself, in every way.
The new guy has to start from where Bush's administration had stopped. The latter hadn't changed anything for the good, in fact things went down the drain uncontrolled (ly?) for the last 1 1/2 years.
McCain would not have been the bad choice Bush was, still I think at the point where you have to rethink the whole politics of a country, Obama could bring a fresh scent of conversation between some countries. If he does not change anything I foresee the next 20-30 years of republican right-wing christian American warfare politics again...
Obama can't just get rid of all the problems by swinging his magic wand, greedy oil geeks, bank and stock managers and corrupt car companies now depend on money only the normal people and another very high public debt can give them what they so carelessly spent for whatever.
Aw, another gush of letters here, sorry. Let's hope for the best.
greetz
der haven't-even-had-coffee-yet-butz
Well, politician or not, it can't get much worse. Obama seems to at least search conversation with other countries, rather than ruling them all by sheer monetary and arms power. America shrunk down from a nuclear superpower to a country that has to admit its problems, as many others did long before.
Bush spent billions for his own personal goals. He "failed epically" (hate this term btw, but here it rather fits) and made every country know america as the land that doesn't care about anything but itself, in every way.
The new guy has to start from where Bush's administration had stopped. The latter hadn't changed anything for the good, in fact things went down the drain uncontrolled (ly?) for the last 1 1/2 years.
McCain would not have been the bad choice Bush was, still I think at the point where you have to rethink the whole politics of a country, Obama could bring a fresh scent of conversation between some countries. If he does not change anything I foresee the next 20-30 years of republican right-wing christian American warfare politics again...
Obama can't just get rid of all the problems by swinging his magic wand, greedy oil geeks, bank and stock managers and corrupt car companies now depend on money only the normal people and another very high public debt can give them what they so carelessly spent for whatever.
Aw, another gush of letters here, sorry. Let's hope for the best.
greetz
der haven't-even-had-coffee-yet-butz
Hey, we never shoot anyone! Not when anyone else could be watching
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der secretly burning his black cape butz
Maaan, gripdriver...
You seem to be just a brainless redneck who believes in what some drunk bloke in the gutter had told him. You don't give a new man a chance, you think that the words "liberal" and "democracy" stand for communism and ni***rs bombing up your hick town.
I've got to know some Americans here in the forum, and most of them were right in defending their national pride when everyone went on about bush's own country of bombing, torture and theft. Now you Americans have a chance to be a proud member of the country that wants to fix things again, and still you (I mean grip, not all the Amis) mock around, as if things could get worse for your country...
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no butz
You seem to be just a brainless redneck who believes in what some drunk bloke in the gutter had told him. You don't give a new man a chance, you think that the words "liberal" and "democracy" stand for communism and ni***rs bombing up your hick town.
I've got to know some Americans here in the forum, and most of them were right in defending their national pride when everyone went on about bush's own country of bombing, torture and theft. Now you Americans have a chance to be a proud member of the country that wants to fix things again, and still you (I mean grip, not all the Amis) mock around, as if things could get worse for your country...
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no butz
My first tattoo was alright, nothing special as well. Also I've long forgotten the pain and stuff.
Second one was big (6 sessions, 4 hours of needling torture each, plus about 15 hours of painting my schemes onto my arm) and I can clearly understand Woz's mental stage thing! After a while the pain becomes strangely vague and you don't feel connected to the hurting body part anymore. It sort of burns where the needle was (hellfire must be nothing against this) and it scratches where the needle is. Again, after a while you can't feel any defined pain anymore...
I've only heard the deafening high pitch rattle sound of the machine and Meshuggah screaming while I tried talking funny stuff my the guy that hurt me well :-)
Never tried drugs though, the whole experience is too cool without. And after all I think my body produced so many of its own drugs I was definitely getting high.
greetz
der butz
Second one was big (6 sessions, 4 hours of needling torture each, plus about 15 hours of painting my schemes onto my arm) and I can clearly understand Woz's mental stage thing! After a while the pain becomes strangely vague and you don't feel connected to the hurting body part anymore. It sort of burns where the needle was (hellfire must be nothing against this) and it scratches where the needle is. Again, after a while you can't feel any defined pain anymore...
I've only heard the deafening high pitch rattle sound of the machine and Meshuggah screaming while I tried talking funny stuff my the guy that hurt me well :-)
Never tried drugs though, the whole experience is too cool without. And after all I think my body produced so many of its own drugs I was definitely getting high.
greetz
der butz
Note: First of all this is MY experience. Pain differs from person to person.
The hardest parts are just where the nerves are close to the skin. Crook of the arm and next to the elbow... Don't know the english expression for this, but you might have got this strange, almost electric shock once you've butted your elbow against something... that's a nerve going right next to your bone.
Bones don't hurt as much, the vibration of the needles just seems to go right through your body, which makes your vision funny and doesn't feel quite comfy.
It was also quite tough when the needles came down to the fibres near the wrist. Again nerves hurt a lot more!
The pain is hard to describe actually. I'll try something real quick
[butz tries to rip his skin up a bit with various household things]
Okay. Take a small fork and scratch yourself for a minute or two. Just until the point it really starts to hurt. Then scratch more. Imagine now that up to 15 very fine needles are constantly being rammed into your sin while the whole tattoo gun is moving. Sometimes it feels like stiching, sometinmes like scratching.
Hard to describe really, just look at this or this or search other first tattoo things on youtube. Although I've got two tattoos I still can really feel with the guys, for I've been in the same situation twice :-) Only I only screamed once (very loud that is!!) and my left arm is completely covered in ink...
I really hope I can help you showing that the final theme MUST be worth the cost and the pain you're going through!
Once I was lying on the chair of pain when suddenly 2 girls entered. They were 15 and had a fake permission by their parents to get each other's name on the butt... you all know girl's friendships do ya?! :-) Luckily my tattooer sent them away and called their parents before returning to work. That was a great laugh!!!
greetz
der butz
The hardest parts are just where the nerves are close to the skin. Crook of the arm and next to the elbow... Don't know the english expression for this, but you might have got this strange, almost electric shock once you've butted your elbow against something... that's a nerve going right next to your bone.
Bones don't hurt as much, the vibration of the needles just seems to go right through your body, which makes your vision funny and doesn't feel quite comfy.
It was also quite tough when the needles came down to the fibres near the wrist. Again nerves hurt a lot more!
The pain is hard to describe actually. I'll try something real quick
[butz tries to rip his skin up a bit with various household things]
Okay. Take a small fork and scratch yourself for a minute or two. Just until the point it really starts to hurt. Then scratch more. Imagine now that up to 15 very fine needles are constantly being rammed into your sin while the whole tattoo gun is moving. Sometimes it feels like stiching, sometinmes like scratching.
Hard to describe really, just look at this or this or search other first tattoo things on youtube. Although I've got two tattoos I still can really feel with the guys, for I've been in the same situation twice :-) Only I only screamed once (very loud that is!!) and my left arm is completely covered in ink...
I really hope I can help you showing that the final theme MUST be worth the cost and the pain you're going through!
Once I was lying on the chair of pain when suddenly 2 girls entered. They were 15 and had a fake permission by their parents to get each other's name on the butt... you all know girl's friendships do ya?! :-) Luckily my tattooer sent them away and called their parents before returning to work. That was a great laugh!!!
greetz
der butz
clearly Obama, I'd never vote for a christian American right wing .....! (can't say that here)
Lego or fisher price?
Lego or fisher price?
Who says these things? Scavier are next on our hunting list :-)
And by the way: we've got apes here, and funny mushrooms, and an actual mooooose!!!!!
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der butz
Easiest would be some transfer foil. You can get these tattoo-foils from ebay or different online shops. Just put them in your printer, print your motive and transfer it to your skin. These things last for a few days.
Non-permanent tattoos are a myth, either you have a bleached image for the rest of your life or it goes off after a few days/weeks. Everyone knows of those non-perm things, none of us knows who makes them... If there is ink transferred into your skin it's permanent.
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der butz
Non-permanent tattoos are a myth, either you have a bleached image for the rest of your life or it goes off after a few days/weeks. Everyone knows of those non-perm things, none of us knows who makes them... If there is ink transferred into your skin it's permanent.
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der butz
it's you who wants to get it - how can someone else hinder you?
I'd not want to get this... Albrecht Dürer's hands are everywhere, plus the line "in god we trust" is something that can be discussed somewhere else...and is on American money, which has nothing to do with god.
As many people here say: Think of it, try something non-permanent with the picture you want, look at yourself, make really really sure if you want to have it done forever (nothing wrong with belief in something). Then - maybe after thinking about it for a long time - get it done!
greetz
der butz
I'd not want to get this... Albrecht Dürer's hands are everywhere, plus the line "in god we trust" is something that can be discussed somewhere else...and is on American money, which has nothing to do with god.
As many people here say: Think of it, try something non-permanent with the picture you want, look at yourself, make really really sure if you want to have it done forever (nothing wrong with belief in something). Then - maybe after thinking about it for a long time - get it done!
greetz
der butz
You're right on most of the things you stated.
My tattoo though has got a meaning for ME, I wear it mostly hidden, so if I don't want it to be seen not even my boss will know. I'm not ashamed of it and in summer everyone can clearly see it when I'm not at work.
Most of the people who ask what it means just get "parts of machinery" as an answer, closer friends could get a closer explanation.
I've had the idea to my tattoo when I was about 5 years old. In my head it was not a tattoo, it was just thoughts and anxieties. Still the theme fits perfectly (that's why I got it done 6 years ago) and I'm still afraid of the same things, as I'll always be.
For bystanders it's only a piece of art (or crap) on my arm. For me it's a meaningful part of myself I couldn't express in any other way.
greetz
der butz
My tattoo though has got a meaning for ME, I wear it mostly hidden, so if I don't want it to be seen not even my boss will know. I'm not ashamed of it and in summer everyone can clearly see it when I'm not at work.
Most of the people who ask what it means just get "parts of machinery" as an answer, closer friends could get a closer explanation.
I've had the idea to my tattoo when I was about 5 years old. In my head it was not a tattoo, it was just thoughts and anxieties. Still the theme fits perfectly (that's why I got it done 6 years ago) and I'm still afraid of the same things, as I'll always be.
For bystanders it's only a piece of art (or crap) on my arm. For me it's a meaningful part of myself I couldn't express in any other way.
greetz
der butz
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